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		<title>By: Jonathan@basketball91.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan@basketball91.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was still very young when Isiah Thomas was playing basketball so my memories about him are very vague.  The only thing I remember about him clearly is that he was MJs rival for a position at the first dream team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was still very young when Isiah Thomas was playing basketball so my memories about him are very vague.  The only thing I remember about him clearly is that he was MJs rival for a position at the first dream team.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 07:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H-  
I can  understand where you&#039;re coming from -- several  fans and the entire state of New York would agree.    But a couple of those points - however common they are to sports fans - are flat out ridiculous.
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1. Freezing out Jordan... Come on...it didn&#039;t happen.  I watched that game.  As great as we all know Jordan is today, in 1985 he was a rookie playing on a team with Dr. J, Larry Bird, and other legends - nobody would have spent the entire game passing to Jordan unless they could see into the future.  Jordan scored 7 points on 9 shots in 22 minutes in that game.  Adrian Dantley scored 10 points on 6 shots in 23 minutes and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar scored 11 points on 10 shots  in 23 minutes.    Did Magic Johnson freeze them out? 
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2. The Magic Johnson thing.  Does it strike anybody as odd that Magic says &quot;Isiah was like a brother to me&quot; but that he never said a word to Isiah  about those rumors? Instead he  pretended they were friends and never said anything about it until he was trying to promote a book 20 years later.  Isiah Thomas had a brother who died from AIDS, and he lobbied to get Magic into the All-Star game after Magic&#039;s retirement, when people like Karl Malone wanted to boycott .   Thomas wasn&#039;t and isn&#039;t that  ignorant about AIDS, and while Magic may be a nice guy,  he&#039;s clearly two-faced and more focused on selling books than on his friendships.
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3.  Knight...   Isiah would have been criticized if he had  publicly supported Knight...now he&#039;s being criticized for things he didn&#039;t say.   It just tells me that he&#039;s a lightning rod to basketball fans, whether those fans love him or hate him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H-<br />
I can  understand where you&#8217;re coming from &#8212; several  fans and the entire state of New York would agree.    But a couple of those points &#8211; however common they are to sports fans &#8211; are flat out ridiculous.<br />
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1. Freezing out Jordan&#8230; Come on&#8230;it didn&#8217;t happen.  I watched that game.  As great as we all know Jordan is today, in 1985 he was a rookie playing on a team with Dr. J, Larry Bird, and other legends &#8211; nobody would have spent the entire game passing to Jordan unless they could see into the future.  Jordan scored 7 points on 9 shots in 22 minutes in that game.  Adrian Dantley scored 10 points on 6 shots in 23 minutes and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar scored 11 points on 10 shots  in 23 minutes.    Did Magic Johnson freeze them out?<br />
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2. The Magic Johnson thing.  Does it strike anybody as odd that Magic says &#8220;Isiah was like a brother to me&#8221; but that he never said a word to Isiah  about those rumors? Instead he  pretended they were friends and never said anything about it until he was trying to promote a book 20 years later.  Isiah Thomas had a brother who died from AIDS, and he lobbied to get Magic into the All-Star game after Magic&#8217;s retirement, when people like Karl Malone wanted to boycott .   Thomas wasn&#8217;t and isn&#8217;t that  ignorant about AIDS, and while Magic may be a nice guy,  he&#8217;s clearly two-faced and more focused on selling books than on his friendships.<br />
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3.  Knight&#8230;   Isiah would have been criticized if he had  publicly supported Knight&#8230;now he&#8217;s being criticized for things he didn&#8217;t say.   It just tells me that he&#8217;s a lightning rod to basketball fans, whether those fans love him or hate him.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on people really, Lambier was a crafty border line dirty player.  Any one who knows competition can understand that it gets heated whether practice or games. Michael Jordan was cocky and arrogant as a rookie, It cant make you a bad guy for wanting the youngster to show some respect for the league and the other stars. The fact that the other all stars responded tells the true story. Bobby Knight is a hell raiser and got it right where he deserved it and it doesn&#039;t make you bad for letting it happen alumni or not. Now Mr. Thomas is  no different than any other man with power working closely with women. Just like the President he ran into one with an agenda and he got popped. 
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Also 400 years of history tells us that America is racist down to its core and gives him the right to be aware of black/white perception on all levels. Doesn&#039;t make him bad does it? 
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The guy knew Magic a long time before the HIV thing, he could know something we don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people really, Lambier was a crafty border line dirty player.  Any one who knows competition can understand that it gets heated whether practice or games. Michael Jordan was cocky and arrogant as a rookie, It cant make you a bad guy for wanting the youngster to show some respect for the league and the other stars. The fact that the other all stars responded tells the true story. Bobby Knight is a hell raiser and got it right where he deserved it and it doesn&#8217;t make you bad for letting it happen alumni or not. Now Mr. Thomas is  no different than any other man with power working closely with women. Just like the President he ran into one with an agenda and he got popped.<br />
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Also 400 years of history tells us that America is racist down to its core and gives him the right to be aware of black/white perception on all levels. Doesn&#8217;t make him bad does it?<br />
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The guy knew Magic a long time before the HIV thing, he could know something we don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
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		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your perspective - especially the &#039;kids lessons&#039;- but I can never get past the lack of character he continually revealed over his career. You watched him do great things - i saw only questionable acts that i thnk spoke volumes about the type of person Thomas is and was. This is the same guy who sucker punched &#039;his friend&#039; Bill Lambeer in the face at practise and in a blatant act of jealousy talked his Eastern squad teammates into freezing out rookie Micheal Jordan in the all star game. This is the same clown who shoved Mark Price into the crowd in a playoff game (who hates Mark Price!?) and spread the rumours that Magic Johnson contracted HIV through homosexual acts. When people in his life needed help - see: Bobby Knight&#039;s very ugly exit at Indiana - he never once spoke out publically in support. You mention the labour front - how about single handedly bankrupting the CBA then walking away? From the Raptors to the Knicks, everything this guy touches turns to _____. Period. I beleive this will be his true legacy. If youre looking for a real role model, look no further than his backcourt teammate, Joe Dumars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your perspective &#8211; especially the &#8216;kids lessons&#8217;- but I can never get past the lack of character he continually revealed over his career. You watched him do great things &#8211; i saw only questionable acts that i thnk spoke volumes about the type of person Thomas is and was. This is the same guy who sucker punched &#8216;his friend&#8217; Bill Lambeer in the face at practise and in a blatant act of jealousy talked his Eastern squad teammates into freezing out rookie Micheal Jordan in the all star game. This is the same clown who shoved Mark Price into the crowd in a playoff game (who hates Mark Price!?) and spread the rumours that Magic Johnson contracted HIV through homosexual acts. When people in his life needed help &#8211; see: Bobby Knight&#8217;s very ugly exit at Indiana &#8211; he never once spoke out publically in support. You mention the labour front &#8211; how about single handedly bankrupting the CBA then walking away? From the Raptors to the Knicks, everything this guy touches turns to _____. Period. I beleive this will be his true legacy. If youre looking for a real role model, look no further than his backcourt teammate, Joe Dumars.</p>
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		<title>By: Coach Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

Despite my inclination to ignore your comments since you&#039;re a New Yorker, you gave a very thought provoking response. It sheds light on an important point; none of us really know anything about the people we see on television. What we see comes through a heavily biased filter. All of the well-documented negatives on Isiah…if they were all based in the truth, I would not want my children or my players to emulate them. There aren’t many people in the national spotlight who I would use as role models; their lives have been dissected so much that the negatives are there for the world to see, along with the positives. Beyond Isiah’s technique, there are some things I definitely would want my kids to emulate:
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1. Due to my leftist tendencies…The guy who as the head of the player’s union instituted a profit sharing model and a retirement plan that took money out of the top-tier players’ pockets (including his own) and distributed it more evenly to insure a better outcome for lower-tier players : little kid lesson: it’s important to share, even if its unpopular. 
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2. He scored 27 points in the 4th quarter of game 6 of the finals on a severely sprained ankle, blurred vision, an ingrown toenail and a receding hairline (the toenail and the hairline were not really factors; I just added them in for the sake of exaggeration) : little kid lesson: never give up (not quitting the Knicks - same lesson). 
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3. Suffered a concussion and required 40+ stitches after taking an elbow to the head from Karl Malone and came back to play in the &lt;strong&gt;same&lt;/strong&gt; game. : little kid lesson: never give up; be tough; stand your ground. His leadership with the pistons and ability to rally the troops was a huge factor in winning the only 2 titles in the Jordan, Bird, Magic era that didn&#039;t go to Jordan, Bird, or Magic. 
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4.  I met him twice as a kid (which probably explains my bias) - the first time he was giving autographs; the second was at a hospital; he made an unannounced visit in the kids cancer ward at Swedish hospital, where I was volunteering.
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I could go on, but I wont - anybody that wants to hate him can find more than enough material to back their claim - and my opinion obviously isn&#039;t going to be swayed. Moreover, my original point was not that Isiah Thomas character is beyond reproach, or that he should be your child’s next role model. It was an observation of the public reaction to a statement - “I do make a distinction”. I find the &lt;em&gt;reaction&lt;/em&gt; to that statement to be at best self serving and at worst, ignorant. As I said, its easier to demonize him than to engage in any sort of self-reflection when it comes to race.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>Despite my inclination to ignore your comments since you&#8217;re a New Yorker, you gave a very thought provoking response. It sheds light on an important point; none of us really know anything about the people we see on television. What we see comes through a heavily biased filter. All of the well-documented negatives on Isiah…if they were all based in the truth, I would not want my children or my players to emulate them. There aren’t many people in the national spotlight who I would use as role models; their lives have been dissected so much that the negatives are there for the world to see, along with the positives. Beyond Isiah’s technique, there are some things I definitely would want my kids to emulate:<br />
<br />
1. Due to my leftist tendencies…The guy who as the head of the player’s union instituted a profit sharing model and a retirement plan that took money out of the top-tier players’ pockets (including his own) and distributed it more evenly to insure a better outcome for lower-tier players : little kid lesson: it’s important to share, even if its unpopular.<br />
<br />
2. He scored 27 points in the 4th quarter of game 6 of the finals on a severely sprained ankle, blurred vision, an ingrown toenail and a receding hairline (the toenail and the hairline were not really factors; I just added them in for the sake of exaggeration) : little kid lesson: never give up (not quitting the Knicks &#8211; same lesson).<br />
<br />
3. Suffered a concussion and required 40+ stitches after taking an elbow to the head from Karl Malone and came back to play in the <strong>same</strong> game. : little kid lesson: never give up; be tough; stand your ground. His leadership with the pistons and ability to rally the troops was a huge factor in winning the only 2 titles in the Jordan, Bird, Magic era that didn&#8217;t go to Jordan, Bird, or Magic.<br />
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4.  I met him twice as a kid (which probably explains my bias) &#8211; the first time he was giving autographs; the second was at a hospital; he made an unannounced visit in the kids cancer ward at Swedish hospital, where I was volunteering.<br />
<br />
I could go on, but I wont &#8211; anybody that wants to hate him can find more than enough material to back their claim &#8211; and my opinion obviously isn&#8217;t going to be swayed. Moreover, my original point was not that Isiah Thomas character is beyond reproach, or that he should be your child’s next role model. It was an observation of the public reaction to a statement &#8211; “I do make a distinction”. I find the <em>reaction</em> to that statement to be at best self serving and at worst, ignorant. As I said, its easier to demonize him than to engage in any sort of self-reflection when it comes to race.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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So, I ask, when you claim to be a fan of Isiah Thomas, what exactly are you a fan of, the basketball player, his jump shot, his dribble or his character?

I have been coaching sports on many levels for many years. There is nothing more important to me as a coach than character development. I want to see kids, young men and young women develop good core values that they can build on for the rest of their lives. Although it’s no grand secret, a good value system has to be constantly reinforced so that it shows up in the right places and has carry over off the court to offer us guidance in our daily decision making. In the final analysis, we are all judged by our character and decision making first and foremost. A tough lesson learned by Isiah and a shiny example to remind the rest of us. Even hall of famers are judged by their value system. It doesn’t erase their records, just puts them in perspective.

Whether or not Isiah is a racist is not really for me to say and probably not for you to say either. I frankly don’t feel well enough informed to judge that, do you? I know that there are many of us, myself included, who would not want to be judged entirely on a few words spoken here and there. But look closely at some of the many other behavior attributes. That, I suggest, will tell you what you need to know. You can’t, or perhaps better said, one shouldn’t judge the character of a person on superficial considerations such as suits, smiles and records, whether you lean towards liking that person or not. Judge us on our values. Judge us on our character. I am not suggesting one way or other as to how you should feel about Isiah as a racist or otherwise. But, as a litmus test, consider whether or not you would use Isiah Thomas as a role model of behavior for your own child. As a coach and a parent I wouldn’t hesitate to have a player emulate Isiah’s technique, but nothing more.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I ask, when you claim to be a fan of Isiah Thomas, what exactly are you a fan of, the basketball player, his jump shot, his dribble or his character?</p>
<p>I have been coaching sports on many levels for many years. There is nothing more important to me as a coach than character development. I want to see kids, young men and young women develop good core values that they can build on for the rest of their lives. Although it’s no grand secret, a good value system has to be constantly reinforced so that it shows up in the right places and has carry over off the court to offer us guidance in our daily decision making. In the final analysis, we are all judged by our character and decision making first and foremost. A tough lesson learned by Isiah and a shiny example to remind the rest of us. Even hall of famers are judged by their value system. It doesn’t erase their records, just puts them in perspective.</p>
<p>Whether or not Isiah is a racist is not really for me to say and probably not for you to say either. I frankly don’t feel well enough informed to judge that, do you? I know that there are many of us, myself included, who would not want to be judged entirely on a few words spoken here and there. But look closely at some of the many other behavior attributes. That, I suggest, will tell you what you need to know. You can’t, or perhaps better said, one shouldn’t judge the character of a person on superficial considerations such as suits, smiles and records, whether you lean towards liking that person or not. Judge us on our values. Judge us on our character. I am not suggesting one way or other as to how you should feel about Isiah as a racist or otherwise. But, as a litmus test, consider whether or not you would use Isiah Thomas as a role model of behavior for your own child. As a coach and a parent I wouldn’t hesitate to have a player emulate Isiah’s technique, but nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Coach Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coach Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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I disagree, but you might be right. I’d be interested to know why Vivian Stringer apologized to him after she ripped him at the end of the sexual harassment case. Watching the way the media works for several years has taught me that nearly everything athletes say can and is taken out of context. It may seem clear as day that he is racist, or sexist, or both, based on the 10 second clip that the media aired during the case. Then again, Vivian Stringer doesn’t strike me as the type of person who would apologize to anybody unless she meant it…if she did ‘mean it’, my money says she took that media clip out of context.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, but you might be right. I’d be interested to know why Vivian Stringer apologized to him after she ripped him at the end of the sexual harassment case. Watching the way the media works for several years has taught me that nearly everything athletes say can and is taken out of context. It may seem clear as day that he is racist, or sexist, or both, based on the 10 second clip that the media aired during the case. Then again, Vivian Stringer doesn’t strike me as the type of person who would apologize to anybody unless she meant it…if she did ‘mean it’, my money says she took that media clip out of context.</p>
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		<title>By: Geovanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geovanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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I have always like Isiah’s Thomas game, but never his attitude and character. He is a chauvinist, he’s sexist, and you may not think so, but he’s a racist too. Just for your information, I am an African American female and I’ve been a fan of the Detroit Pistons before they won their first NBA championship, and we need to stop using our race as an excuse to be racist (though we would never admit this). My sister does this all the time, and I just straight up, to her face, called her a racist. It is what it is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always like Isiah’s Thomas game, but never his attitude and character. He is a chauvinist, he’s sexist, and you may not think so, but he’s a racist too. Just for your information, I am an African American female and I’ve been a fan of the Detroit Pistons before they won their first NBA championship, and we need to stop using our race as an excuse to be racist (though we would never admit this). My sister does this all the time, and I just straight up, to her face, called her a racist. It is what it is.</p>
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